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Thursday 16 April 2009

Llywelyn the Last's Celtic Cross Battle Flag


According to Wikipedia:

Banner known as Y Groes Nawdd or "The Cross of Neith" said to have been the battle flag of Llywelyn the Last.

Llywelyn the Last - as the name suggests - is still held by many in Wales to be the last legitimate Prince of Wales - killed in 1282. The current holder, of the House of Saxe-Coburg, is not said to hold the title legitimately.


Link:
Wikipedia Welsh Flags

Owain Glyndwr's Flag

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Totally incorrect I'm afraid FC.

Llywelyn's battle flag is the Red/Yellow Lions quartered and on all fours, unlike the Glyndwr Banner which has the same quarters/colours but with the Lion on his hind legs only.

The Groes Naid (from the True Cross)was a sacred relic put into the safe-keeping on behalf of the Welsh Nation to the monks at Cymer Abbey, later seized by Edward II in 1284.

Purple is the colour of royalty for Celts though!

Final Conflict said...

Hi Anon. I think that was his PERSONAL ROYAL EMBLEM/FLAG, emblem. This [Celtic Cross] was his Battle Flag.

See it this way:

Hitler's Fuhrer Standard and the Third Reich Battle Flag.

Or the English Royal Banner [in various incarnations] versus the various Battle Flags of the Army.

Llywelyn's royal banner/flag is very similar to Glyndwr's.

According to the Wikipedia entry Llywelyn also had a Three Lions banner which further complicates matters!

Of course the flag that most associate with Llywelyn and his dynasty is the red/yellow quartered royal flag.

Anonymous said...

No offence but wouldn't trust entries on 'Wikipedia'. Y Groes Naid is reference to a sacred relic NOT a flag.

If there was a flag other than his standard it would have been the Gold Dragon on a Purple background.

Anonymous said...

great looking flag mind. tidy!

Anonymous said...

Did hear that that Taliesyn fella used to sing Skrewdriver songs on his lute!


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