The Guardian newspaper goes with the story of undercover coppers being allowed to have sexual relations with members of groups they are infiltrating.
How very James Bond!
Of course the police chiefs deny it, but as the Guardian sub-headline screams:
Promiscuity 'regularly used as tactic', says former officer, contradicting claims from Acpo
Acpo is the police boss's mouthpiece.
Yet because the groups have primarily been
"anarchist, left wing
and environmental groups" The Guardian is treating this as a new story.
But we know different don't we?
Some years ago (2002) a police spy called
Peter Marriner was "outed" on a BBC TV programme called
True Spies.
Years earlier (in 1994) FC had put together the info from various sources and published a fulsome warning about Marriner being a predatory homosexual used to infiltrate left and right wing groups.
We published that back in FC mag #7. At the time Marriner had reappeared in the NF as the West Midlands secretary, with access to
every NF members' details throughout the West Midlands (one of their strongholds). Much of our initial info came from outraged NF members. We also had fulsome information from John Tyndall and Colin Jordan from when Marriner had first appeared in nationalist circles in the 60s and 70s.
Marriner
was a wrong 'un
! The evidence was undeniable, substantive and damning.
Yet even after this exposé with clear evidence from sources as diverse as the British Movement and homosexual newspapers (detailing Marriner's public toilets antics!) this police spy and degenerate pervert went on, after his West Midlands NF stint, to have joint control of the
'Choice' organisation, founded by Jane Lady Birdwood and given over, by her, to Peter Marriner and the other homosexual apologist, Martin Webster.
At Birdwood's death, her property was split between Marriner and Webster. Mr. Webster must have known of Marriner's past - we have to wonder if he turned a blind eye because of the police spy's homosexuality?
Of course whilst running the Choice organisation for the ailing Birdwood, Marriner had full access to the personal details of all subscribers, correspondents etc. before pocketing tens of thousands (at least!) from the sale of her West London home.
It's not very pleasant is it?
But it gets worse!
Years after FC had published all the info on the NF secretary Marriner and after his control and financial gain from Birdwood & Choice, the odious pervert popped up on the True Spies programme to say that he was
encouraged to 'sleep with' young nationalists (i.e. bugger them!) to get "pillow talk."
So the idea of state agents being given the all-clear to use sex to get info from targeted groups is nothing new!
That The Guardian, like the various lefty politicians who appeared on True Spies, takes the tone of moral outrage when anarcho-weirdies and crusties are targeted by the State, but there is no response at all when nationalists are targeted by the State, gives the impression that it is "acceptable" for the State to target nationalists (the agenda pushed by Searchlight) using underhand methodology.
The problem for them then is that if you give the green light to subterfuge, skulduggery, degeneracy etc. against nationalists, then you, ipso facto, also give the green light to them being used against "lefties" (some lefties know this, hence they don't like Searchlight's secret state agenda).
It's such a shame that The Guardian seeks to ignore this aspect (choosing rather to paint anarcho-crusties as the sole victims) thus their narrow political agenda leaves the door open for the police and state agencies to use entryism in groups as diverse as C18, the BNP and the NF to wreck nationalism and attack those nationalists who are genuine, concerned and show real promise for the nationalist cause.
As long as people follow such a narrow political agenda the state will use Walther Mitty types to target nationalists, environmentalists, peace campaigners, pro-lifers and others, knowing that their factional interests will mean the raised voices of protest will turn a blind eye to spooks and coppers who infiltrate and bring-down their 'opponents.'
That's a real shame, because the true victim is Freedom, honesty and trust per se.
Here's a piece that appeared in an old Final Conflict e-zine:
ENGLAND: FAGGOT SPY IN THE NF?
[An FC writer has sent in this piece and commentry]:
The following letter was sent out by a homosexual: Martin Webster, who used to run the National Front in the 1970s, but was expelled from the NF in 1983.
It's certainly true that there were a number of queers in the NF back in the late 70s and 80s. Some people took to referring to the NF as the 'Gay Front', a nomenclature which did the NF great harm in working class circles and made it the butt (every pun intended) of many a joke.
What is interesting here is that Peter Marriner has been denounced by FC for many years - see FC magazine #7 when the homosexual infiltrator was exposed - then acting as Birmingham secretary of the National Front, with access to all names and addresses throughout the West Midlands, under the then leader John McAuley, circa 1994.
The amazing thing is that Peter Marriner was, until recently we can only assume given the tone of the following piece, the right-hand man of one Martin Webster!
The two of them gained the West London house of Lady Birdwood when she passed away a few years back.
As the identity of Peter Marriner isn't divulged in the Radio Times
piece, we can only assume that Marriner and Webster have had a falling out!
What is unbelievable is that anyone was 'taken in' by Marriner after he was exposed as an infiltrator by people like Colin Jordan and John Tyndall back in the early 1980s. Hence FC's disbelief when he popped up again the early 90s NF, and his role with Lady Birdwood, Martin Webster and 'Choice' - her paper and organisation.
Whilst it isn't always obvious to spot spies and infiltrators, the use of bi-sexuals and homosexuals by the Soviets, MI5 etc. - especially Cambridge types ('the fifth man' and all that) - should put everyone on their guard.
And if anything is learnt from the NF and the early 1980s it's don't turn a 'blind eye' to homosexuality and sexual deviants!
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"I have just had Ruby Archer, who used to be Minutes Secretary of the National Directorate during my time in the NF during the 1970s, on the phone. She has drawn my attention to the current issue of 'The Radio Times'. In this there is a brief review concerning the forthcoming (next Sunday's) episode of the 'True Spies' series. Ruby is going to send me the page from her copy of the 'RT' in case I can't get one, but she read out a part of it, and as far as I can recollect, it goes as follows:
""Sunday's 'True Spies' is especially fascinating on account of the
number of men who have acted as infiltrators for MI5 and who have been persuaded by the programme's producer Peter Day to be interviewed by him about it. One such is 'Steve' who infiltrated the National Front which attracted a lot of intelligence service surveillance during the 1970s. 'Steve' had 'Chris' as his controller. 'Steve' had to endure losing a lot of his friends who thought he had turned into a Nazi. As it happens, 'Steve' is
gay and there were a surprising number of gay members in the NF. He produced a lot of information via 'pillow talk' which he passed back to 'Chris'. The programme also details the surveillance of Arthur Scargill, the miners' leader . . . "
"From the above, added to the information already circulated, I think we must deduce that the 'Steve' in the above item is Peter Marriner.
"It is interesting that the review specifies the NF has 'Steve's'
target for infiltration since, to the best of my recollection, he spent the largest part of that decade in the British Movement as adviser and third in command when Colin Jordan was its leader, and then adviser and second in command when Mike McLaughlin was leader. He only came into the NF once BM had broken up, which was circa 1978/79. His area of activity and contact
was more-or-less confined to Birmingham and the West Midlands. Perhaps "the NF" was specified in this review since the NF was and is far better known than the British Movement and its name will "ring more of a bell" with 'RT' readers than that of the BM.
"Anyway, it would appear that Wayne Ashcroft's identification from the preview clip was correct.
[The British Movement actually continued into the early 1980s, and was later relaunched by what was known by the 1984 Committee. The author must have known this. Maybe a BM, or ex-BM member can confirm that?].
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On Sunday the 3rd of November the BBC2 programme True Spies aired at
9pm.
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From the FC e-zine # 2066, 4th November 2002:
ENGLAND: FAGGOT INFILTRATOR OF NF ON TV
Last night's True Spies was everything it promised to be. Smears,
cobbled together stories about cranks on the fringes of Nationalism - with no opportunity for any Nationalist to reply; followed by a half-decent documentary on the infiltration of leftist groups, with regular opinions from the leftists themselves to put things in perspective ['I'm not surprised', or 'what a terrible thing in a democracy' etc.].
One would have thought that the then leader of the National Front, John Tyndall, would have been approached for his thoughts. Of course, the truth is that he could have blown the programmes inaccuracies, lies and general muddying of the waters into stark relief. The programmes whole premise on the 'far right' would not have held up for one second!
What this proves, again for the umpteenth time, is that the
establishment and the media fear Nationalism more than they fear the myriad of Socialist and Communist groups, including the Anti Nazi League, then led by the now government minister Peter Hain - how radical!
One interesting part of the programme was when an official of the NUM [National Union of Mineworkers] went to Libya to meet Colonel Gaddaffy. Of course the programme repeated the usual plethora of scare stories about the IRA and armed struggle. The programme did not let on that Colonel Gaddaffy, and his officials, have in fact met people from right across the political spectrum - including Communists, Ulster Loyalists, Racial Nationalists from Canada and England [inc the NF], anti-Zionists etc. etc. Of course, Jorg Haider had a special meeting with Gaddaffy at which a trade was agreed in order to get cheaper fuel for Austrians! Is Haider then some kind of terrorist? To equate one such meeting between the NUM and Gaddaffy with the IRA is really not fair on the NUM, and the programme makers must have known this.
The centre-stage of the first third or so of the programme belonged to 'Steve'; in actual fact the faggot Peter Marriner who was once arrested for his homosexual activities in a public toilet [see FC magazine #7 for full details on Marriner's background].
What is interesting is that Marriner's role in more recent politics
[viz his role in getting Choice organisation left to a coterie of
homosexuals - see FC e-zine #2065] wasn't mentioned at all.
FC had exposed Marriner's role in the Birmingham National Front circa 1994. His red and police background had been exposed when he appeared in the NF in the early 80s by Colin Jordan's Gothic Ripples and John Tyndall's Spearhead journals. Are we really to believe those taking over Choice had no idea of this degenerate pervert's background?
Was this another State sting? To get an outspoken Christian grouplet handed onto a bunch of homosexuals, the chief of which even the current BNP leader recently denounced as a "sad old queen" in an attempt to divert attention away from their own watering down of their stance on homosexuality.
All we can repeat is that this must teach Nationalists that the
homosexual crowd must be avoided like the plague! A particularly unsavoury part of the programme was when Marriner's Special Branch handler [on behalf of MI5] said that Marriner was given the 'green light' for targeting young Nationalists, in order to bugger them and then get pillow talk -- the uncharitable might in fact label it 'pillow bighting talk'.
This doesn't reflect well on what some members of the circles of 'sad old queens' might have used the NF for - nor on the secret state who encouraged buggery for their own ends!
That people were taken in by Marriner in the 70s and even later because they didn't know the score is terrible enough, if understandable. The fact that Marriner was allowed a pivotal role in certain 'nationalist' circles as recently as a year or two ago - when his red, homosexual and police histories were known - is inexcusable.
Look out for all manner of 'excuses' doing the rounds - throwing dirt on other people and all the rest of it by Marriner related people.
Those at fault here are those who let gaggles of queers stay in the NF and other organisations, and those who still think people like Marriner who engage in all manner of nefarious activities of a sexual nature, still have a role to play. Those who still believe that need to face the same kind of brick wall as the homosexual apologists.
We will not change our beliefs, even if the system makes 'homophobia' - in truth the holding of widespread, patently true and provable truths - 'illegal'.
Learn the lessons people!
